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Q1.
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AGENDA ITEM 4 QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC - ENCLOSURE 11 SCHEDULE OF BOARD MEETINGS
ICB meetings are scheduled every two months from 1 July 2022 to 1 March 2023 at Oak House, Rotherham. In order to attend meetings at Oak House without transport, I need to travel by bus, (commencing at 07.15) by train and taxi (and return) at a cost of £32.70. In the Constitution, Page 50, Section 9.1.3 states that the ICB has adopted the ten principles sent out by NHS England for working with people and communities. The first principle is putting the voices of people and communities at the centre of decision making and governance.
Why are you meeting in the same inaccessible place for at least the next five meetings? Will you today agree to host and rotate future ICB meetings at all four venues, Barnsley, Doncaster Rotherham and Sheffield?
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Oak House was chosen because it can accommodate a larger number of people in a socially distant way than our other locations. It also has the facility to hold meetings online to offer greater public access for some. We were keen to use our own premises to avoid incurring unnecessary cost. However, we will investigate the options for rotating the meeting to other locations.
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Q2.
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In relation to agenda item 4, Constitution and Standing Orders, the constitution contains no commitment to a comprehensive range of health services or public provision or provision free to anyone living in South Yorkshire. Why not?
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These are core pillars of the NHS Constitution. Our ICB Constitution does not replace the NHS Constitution, to which all NHS organisations are bound, therefore we did not find it necessary to repeat these in our ICB Constitution, which instead sets out how the ICB in South Yorkshire will operate.
The National NHS Constitution states that:
The NHS provides a comprehensive service, available to all - It is available to all irrespective of gender, race, disability, age, sexual orientation, religion, belief, gender reassignment, pregnancy and maternity or marital or civil partnership status. The service is designed to improve, prevent, diagnose and treat both physical and mental health problems with equal regard. It has a duty to each and every individual that it serves and must respect their human rights. At the same time, it has a wider social duty to promote equality through the services it provides and to pay particular attention to groups or sections of society where improvements in health and life expectancy are not keeping pace with the rest of the population.
Access to NHS services is based on clinical need, not an individual’s ability to pay - NHS services are free of charge, except in limited circumstances sanctioned by Parliament.
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Q3.
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Can the Board explain for the benefit of members of the public what is meant by the term ‘at scale’, which appears frequently in all kinds of commissioning contexts, and here specifically in the ICB Constitution itself, paragraph 1.1.4?
Can the Board provide detail and context to help members of the public understand the values and objectives that underpin service delivery ‘at scale’?
It would be helpful if examples could be given of how areas of health provision have been transformed locally to align with ‘at scale’ principles.
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The term ‘at scale’ is used to describe for example when a service may be planned or delivered by one or a number of care providers or across a larger geography to either have consistency of access, quality or outcome or where current or future staffing may cause patient safety or workforce resilience concerns, to ensure that there are sustainable services for all of the populations served.
Principles which underpin this would include improvements in quality, safety, and outcomes or sustainability.
In South Yorkshire we transformed our Hyper Acute Stroke Services to improve our patient pathway for stroke patients. This took place after significant work involving clinical input and public consultation.
A recent example of which is receiving specialist treatment in the first 72 hours after having a stroke is vital for patients to survive - and to survive well. Evidence shows that patients have a better chance of recovery, and are less likely to end up with long term health problems or disability, if they receive specialist stroke care as quickly as possible. In South Yorkshire and Bassetlaw these specialist facilities, known as hyper acute stroke unit's (HASU), are based at:
- Doncaster Royal Infirmary, Doncaster
- The Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield
- Pinderfields Hospital, Wakefield
All of these hospitals provide clot-busting treatments 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Patients with a suspected stroke or transient ischaemic attack (TIA or 'mini-stroke') will be taken to their closest hyper acute stroke unit in our region, including if they are out of area such as in Rotherham or Barnsley. After being looked after in a specialist unit, patients will either:
- Go straight home with a rehabilitation and support package (if needed)
- Be taken to their local hospital for further support and care until they are well enough to no longer need hospital care (eg. Barnsley patients will be taken to Barnsley Hospital and Rotherham patients will be taken to Rotherham Hospital)
- Be taken to a rehabilitation centre or unit at their local hospital or in their local area for further support until they are well enough to go home.
In 2021 a comprehensive HASU Evaluation involving multiple stakeholders, patients and their families was completed.
The evaluation concluded that the transformation of the HASU model in SYB has achieved many of the anticipated benefits:
- The HASU transformation has undoubtedly strengthened HASU provision with the adoption of a regional approach for the stroke pathway across SYB.
- Data demonstrates that there have been improvements in the speed of Stroke Consultant assessment provided within the region.
- Staffing levels and resilience are much improved with structures to support interconnectivity between teams across the network. A third of staff surveyed indicated that they had more job satisfaction since implementation of the HASU model. 88% of staff reported that the Integrated Stroke Delivery Network (ISDN) had enabled them to gain or share new knowledge.
- Strong improvements in clinical quality have been demonstrated across the regional footprint.
- One of the aims was to ensure all HASUs would have patient numbers of sufficient size to provide sufficient patient volumes to make a hyper acute stroke service clinically sustainable, to maintain expertise and to ensure good clinical outcomes and all are achieving this.
- Patients consistently rate HASU and ASU services highly and are likely to recommend the services Friends and Family Test (FFT). The HASU patient experience survey results show that a high proportion of patients and carers are extremely satisfied or satisfied with their care. Comments include: “I received excellent care and I thought I was in the best place”; “I felt reassured to be in the hands of specialists”
- HASU’s have sustainable seven day workforce models in place and there have been reductions in the average length of stay within SYB; data evidences that there are fewer SYB patients who have survived their acute episode are discharged to care homes, which suggests that more patients are returning home; data also shows there has been a reduction in patients being newly discharged to care homes across SYB as a whole.
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Q4.
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In the ICB Register of Interests the Chief Executive Gavin Boyle has declared a business interest in a company named simply as ‘GSI’. For full public transparency, will he provide the full registered company name, details of any parent or subsidiary companies, and details of what services are provided by said company/companies?
Will he also state whether he is, or ever has been, or is likely to become in any way a pecuniary beneficiary of his association with this company (e.g. as a receiver of dividends)?
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Please find details for the company here: https://www.gs1uk.org/
GS1 is a not-for-profit organisation providing barcoding and digital standards services to private and public sector organisations. It is commissioned by the NHS to deliver the National ‘Scan for Safety’ programme using this technology to improve patient safety in hospitals. Gavin’s former organisation - the University Hospitals of Derby & Burton was the first NHS organisation to be accredited under this programme. He is an unpaid member of its supervisory Board.
This is listed on the Register of Interests as a ‘Non-Financial, Professional Interest’ that has been declared and as such Gavin Boyle would be excluded from any decision making related to this company.
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Q5.
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The Deputy Chief Executive Chris Edwards’ entry in the ICB Register of Interests lists a familial interest in a company named as ‘Attain’. For full public transparency, will he provide the full registered company name, details of any parent or subsidiary companies, and details of what services are provided by said company/companies?
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Attain are an Independent Healthcare Delivery Organisation, 2-4 Packhorse Road Gerrards Cross Buckinghamshire SL9 7QE. Please find further details for the company here: https://attain.co.uk/
A familial interest is where an individual has a close association with an individual who has either a financial interest, a non-financial professional interest or a non-financial personal interest (as those categories are described above). For example, this should include:
- Spouse / partner;
- Close relative e.g., parent, grandparent, child, grandchild or sibling
- Close friend;
- Business partner.
The member of the board themselves does not have a financial interest, a non-financial professional interest or a non-financial personal interest, they are just related to someone who does.
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Q6.
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Given that the Medical Director (or ‘Chief Medical Officer’, as listed in the Register of Interests) is required to be a registered Medical Practitioner, and that the present incumbent has private business interests in the Primary Care sector, how will the Board ensure that their role is appropriately represented if that they have to be excluded from an item of business?
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The Medical Director role will not be a General Practitioner in all Integrated Care Boards across the country and is not expected to represent Primary Medical Services. Any conflict would be managed in line with the NHS and ICB Conflict of Interest policies.
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Given that the Partner Member – Primary Medical Services (not listed in the Register of Interests as at 1st July 2022) is required to be a registered General Practitioner, and therefore highly likely to have private business interests in the Primary Care sector, and a particular personal experience of conducting their profession, how will the Board ensure that:
a) their role is appropriately represented if that they have to be excluded from an item of business?
b) views and interests of Primary Care providers and their patients in different circumstances across South Yorkshire are consistently canvassed and fairly represented?
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a) The partner member appointment process is yet to be completed. This role is to bring wider experience and knowledge of Primary Medical Care services to discussions at the board. The ICB chair at the meeting acknowledged that some conflicts of interest will exist in the new ways of working. Any conflict would be managed in line with the NHS and ICB Conflict of Interest policies.
b) The Integrated Care System is supporting a Primary Care Alliance to ensure that voices from across all of the Primary Care providers are heard. Engagement and consultation with patients will be an important function of the Integrated Care System.
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How soon will the Register of Interests be updated to include declarations from the following Board members, currently not listed (at 1st July 2022)?
a) Partner member – Primary medical services
b) Place Director – Rotherham
c) One of the four Non-executive members (only three are listed on the Register of Interests)
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a) as soon as the appointment is made
b) already listed – the Place Director for Rotherham is also the Dept CEO of the ICB Christopher Edwards
c) as soon as the person is appointed
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Q9.
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Under Section 9 of the ICB Constitution, item 9.1.5(e) states that a ‘Non-Executive Member with a specific role to seek assurance on the ICB's arrangements for discharging its duties in relation to patient and public involvement’ will be appointed. Has this appointment been made?
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The Non-Executive Members and their roles are as follows: Remuneration Committee (Moira Wilson), the Audit and Risk Committee (Kevin Turner), the Finance and Investment Committee (Moira Wilson) and Quality, Performance Engagement & Experience Committee (Lesley Dabell). The 4th Non-Executive member when recruited will chair the People, Workforce and Culture Committee. The Non-Executive who Chairs the Quality, Performance Engagement & Experience Committee will be the lead for patient and public involvement.
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Q10.
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Regarding ‘Urgent Decisions’ (section 4.9 of the ICB Constitution):
a) (re. 4.9.4) who is responsible for determining whether something requires an ‘urgent decision’, or constitutes ‘exceptional circumstances’, and by what criteria?
b) (re. 4.9.5) for clarification, may consultation and discussion of matters deemed urgent be conducted in private? If so, will a record of such discussions be kept in written form and made publicly available without recourse to Freedom of Information requests?
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A10.
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Powers may be exercised by the Chair and Chief executive or relevant lead director (in the case of committees) subject to every effort being made to consult with as many members as possible in the given circumstances.
The exercising of such powers shall be reported to the next formal meeting of the board for formal ratification and the audit committee oversight.
An example of an extraordinary situation might include disaster management
Records of any urgent decisions will be kept and made publicly available and will not necessarily be made in private unless circumstances expressed above make it not possible for them to be carried out in a meeting in public.
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Q11.
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Could the Register of Interests be re-ordered so that members are listed alphabetically by surname, not first name?
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Yes we will do this.
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Q12.
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Will the Board undertake to write to all elected members across South Yorkshire, inviting them to subscribe to updates from NHS South Yorkshire (including the ICB and ICP)?
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Yes, we will undertake to do this.
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Agenda Item 9 - ICB Governance Documents, Policies and Procedures - Para 8 (page47) is about the duties of the Remuneration Committee “to determine salary (including any performance-related elements), bonuses, pensions and cars, for the Chief Executive, Directors and other Very Senior Managers”.
What criteria will be used to determine performance related pay and bonuses?
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The current national pay framework for ICB Executives makes no provision for performance related pay or bonuses.
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Agenda Item 9 (a) Standing Financial Instructions and Financial Limits - Ref: SYICB SFI 10.2 - Annual Reporting and Accounts
This says that “an annual report must, in particular, explain how the ICB has discharged its duties in relation to improving ………public involvement.”
What processes and procedures will be undertaken to evidence this?
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Annual reports for the ICB will include a section detailing how it has discharged its public involvement duties, this is in line with the approach taken by predecessor CCG organisations.
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Agenda Item 9 (e) Adoption of Standards of Business Conduct - This is about ICB members committing to good governance as exemplified by the Nolan Principles of public life. It is aimed at achieving the NHS fundamental purpose “to improve the health and well-being of patients and service users, supporting them to keep mentally and physically well’.
How do board members reconcile this objective with the actual experiences of the public that clearly show that demand for NHS services is being actively managed downwards?
(e.g. scores of treatments withdrawn; difficulties in getting doctors appointments; Over 6 million waiting to start treatment; the story of those waiting to get on a waiting list!; A&E waiting times, etc etc)
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Our staff and our Board are fully committed to the values and principles that underpin the NHS, including the fundamental purpose ‘to improve the health and wellbeing of patients and service users, supporting them to keep mentally and physically well’. We have just undergone a process to build a vision and purpose for NHS South Yorkshire, we did this in collaboration with all our colleagues and have developed the following:
Our purpose
To improve health and wellbeing, the quality and experience of care, eliminate health inequalities, and ensure South Yorkshire’s people have access to the services they need to live well throughout their lifetime.
Our vision
We are a system leader and a trusted partner who has South Yorkshire’s people at the heart of what we do. We think differently and work creatively to transform the health and wellbeing of our communities.
Our goals
Inspired colleagues: To make our organisation a great place to work where everyone belongs and makes a difference
Involved communities: To work with our communities so their strengths, experiences and needs are at the heart of all decision-making.
Integrated care: To relentlessly tackle health inequalities and to support people to take charge of their own health and wellbeing.
It has been an unprecedented few years for the NHS as a result of the pandemic, not only did it make it very difficult to deliver ‘normal’ services, the inordinate amount of pressure it put on our colleagues also meant more people than could have been predicted decided to leave their professions. The NHS is still very much in recovery and it is doing so with the full commitment of staff and with the aim of delivering high quality, sustainable health and care services for our population at its heart.
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Agenda Item 9(f) - Employment Policies and Procedures
Current CCG employment policies are being adopted for ‘Day One’, subject to a “subsequent process for the harmonization of the policies”.
Is ‘Fire and Re-hire’ explicitly excluded as a means of harmonization?
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Fire and Re-hire is not a feature of the harmonisation approach.
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Agenda Item 9(i) - Integrated Care Board Special nominated lead roles - With regard to the Special Role of – Conflict of Interest Guardian.
The person nominated for this role is the Audit and Risk Chair (i.e. an Independent Non-Executive Member). The role is about acting “as a conduit for anyone with concerns relating to conflicts of interest”. However only “employees or workers of the ICB” are mentioned as potentially having concerns.
What about patients and service users that may have concerns about conflicts of interest. Why are the ICB’s key stakeholders omitted?
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A register of Interests is published on our website. Members of the public, services users and patients are encouraged to raise any concerns they have. This can be done through a number of routes including through raising questions in advance of Board meetings, through speaking to a member of ICB staff or through writing to the ICB.
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Q18.
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I have tried so many times to get in touch with CCG Doncaster and I have been to the CCG headquarters personally to find out how I can introduce myself as a domiciliary care provider. When I got there I was told at the reception they are working remotely, email them or call and leave your details and they will come back to you. No response from both ends after doing exactly what I was told not once not twice
- Why is it so hard to get to you for information?
- Is it because you don't need care providers and you have enough?
- If that is the case why do you not respond and let me know?
- Is this equal opportunities?
If you cannot give advice when you are on the commissioning team where else would I go?
How come Leeds, Surrey, West Sussex, Cheshire and Durham are happy to talk to providers and give them the information they need
I just want to know/? if I have to go through tenders where do you post your tenders.
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A18.
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Your question in unrelated to the Agenda for our meeting, however, we would like to suggest that you submit an FOI to the following email address: sheffieldccg.freedomofinformation@nhs.net asking for the details of the person you need to contact with regards putting forward your services.
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Agenda Item 4. Constitution - Background/Forward 1.1 (Ps 5- 7) In the list of Partners in the ICS (1.1.4 - 1.1.6) there is only mention of NHS Providers, local authorities, the VCSE and Healthwatch as Partners in the ICS.
Please can you tell me if patients, carers and the public you service are also partners in health and care and therefore with the ICS?
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Patients, carers and the public we serve are also partners in their health and care and the partners listed are also mechanisms for working in partnership with patients, carers and the public.
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In 1.1.6 the ICB constitution says that "Effective public involvement, particularly with those with lived experience and who are seldom heard, ensures that we make the right decisions" implying that the Board has mechanisms to hear any insights, not just questions, directly from the public, including patients and carers; but in 1.1.6 it also says that "Healthwatch ensure that citizen voice is at the centre of the Partnership",
Can you tell me why this is and how they are going to do that?
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The involvement approach will involve both working with Healthwatch to ensure that citizen voice features prominently in our work, but also working with other partners to involve, and in some cases directly with patients, carers and the public.
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Q21.
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Agenda Item 4. Constitution - Composition of the Board 2.1 (Ps 13 - 16)
Please can you clarify how many Non-Executive Directors you have, what sub-committees they chair and which one takes responsibility for public involvement?
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There are 4 Independent Non-Executive Members on the Board. The committees they chair are as follows: the Remuneration Committee (Moira Wilson), the Audit and Risk Committee (Kevin Turner), the Finance and Investment Committee (Moira Wilson) and Quality, Performance Engagement & Experience Committee (Lesley Dabell). The 4th Non-Executive member when recruited will chair the People, Workforce and Culture Committee.
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Agenda Item 4. Constitution - Arrangements for determining the Terms and Conditions of Employees 8. (Ps 47-48)
Why, in 8.1.6 do you task the ICB Remuneration committee to determine the performance-related elements of the pay of "the Chief Executive, Directors and other Very Senior Managers" out of the public purse namely "bonuses" and "cars" when the NHS staff who actually deliver services, and are saving and extending people's lives and relieving the pain and distress of the people you all serve are so overstretched and demoralised?
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The current national pay framework for ICB Executives makes no provision for performance related pay or bonuses. Lease cars are available to all staff through a salary sacrifice lease scheme and so in practice will not be a matter for the Remuneration Committee.
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Q23.
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Agenda Item 9. - Governance, Policies and Procedures - Functions and Decisions Map 9b
Why is there no mention of patients, carers or the public contributing to the ICB decision making if, as you say, repeatedly, that listening to the public and "public involvement, particularly with those with lived experience and who are seldom heard, ensures that we make the right decisions", or is that not what you really meant?
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The Summary Functions and Decision Map shows how the Quality, Performance, Patient Involvement and Experience Committee, which will have oversight of our involvement processes, fits into the governance. Our Start with People Strategy demonstrates our ambition to increasing and improving our involvement processes to ensure that public involvement does ensure that we make the right decisions for our populations.
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Agenda Item 9 - Governance, Policies and Procedures - Adoption of Terms of Reference for ICB Board Committees 9d (Ps 21- 26)
Why do you not follow, in full, the model Quality Committee Terms of Reference produced by the, NHS, National Quality Board which suggests the ICB Medical Director and the ICB Director of Nursing should be full members and not just observers, and the committee should also have two lay members with lived experience, one being from Healthwatch, and one representative from each of Primary Care, Acute Trusts and Local Authorities and maybe ambulance and mental health services too?
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The South Yorkshire Quality, Performance, Patient Involvement and Experience Committee, terms of references will be reviewed by the committee at the first meeting. We will consider your comments at that time.
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Agenda Item 9 - Governance, Policies and Procedures - Adoption of Terms of Reference for ICB Board Committees 9d (Ps 21- 26)
Can you explain to me, and to the general public, why you diluted the wording in the 'purpose' section of the model Quality Committee ToR by changing the words "scrutinise the robustness of ...quality governance..." to read "oversight.....on the adequacy of quality structures...." and how this fits with the public accountability and honesty required in the Nolan Principles?
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The South Yorkshire Quality, Performance, Patient Involvement and Experience Committee, terms of references will be reviewed by the committee at the first meeting. We will consider your comments at that time.
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Q26.
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Agenda Item 9 - Governance, Policies and Procedures - Communities and People Involvement and Engagement Strategy 9h
How can you approve an incomplete strategy which gives no information about how people can be involved in the ICB to influence decisions - which guidance requires should be clearly stated in all your governance documentation?
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A26.
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The Strategy fully complies with NHSE guidance. It is a high level strategy with further detail to be determined, however from day one of the ICB involvement will continue to take place in the forms already undertaken by the four CCGs that precede the board and the ICS PMO, and the approaches previously used will continue.
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Q27.
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What is the total allocated budget for the ICS 2022/23 and 2023/24? How is this budget broken down?
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A27.
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The 22/23 budget for the ICB is £2,861m (£2.9bn). We do not yet know what the budget will be for 23/24. We require further clarification with regards what is meant by how is the budget broken down however questions from the public on matters that are not part of the governing body meeting agendas can be submitted by Freedom of Information request, details about which can be found here: https://southyorkshire.icb.nhs.uk/contact-us
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Q28.
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Can the Board ensure that representatives from the private sector cannot be permitted to attend meetings of the Board, or its committees or subcommittees? Will the Board ensure that this requirement is written into the ICB Constitution?
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The Board intends to hold its meeting in public and therefore anyone can attend these meetings. They are meetings in public and not public meetings.
The board is required to ensure that the underpinning principle of the NHS is not undermined and that the independence of the NHS is maintained. Any interests are published on the website.
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